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  How Far Apart Were Your Legs?

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  several threads on here about the excellent bbc r4 programme this week ('the report') focussing on rape and abuse in barry, south wales, jws.

  fat pervert mark sewell later got 14 years and i hope he is enjoying every minute of it.. the courageous ladies who spoke on the programme were articulate, reasonable and made a tremendous impression.. the quote in the thread title made an impression on me, and i hope, on all listeners.. forget religious, theological, 'biblical' issues and cut to the basics.

  a rape victim was asked to demonstrate - to demonstrate, ffs - to three unqualified (middle-aged at least, presumably) men just how far her legs were apart when she was raped.. i have rarely heard anything so outrageous, and i used to investigate rape and abuse in my profession.

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  The trick is this. The ridiculous and abusive act that these men asked her to somehow reinact (I'm not even sure how to explain what they did), can be brushed off by JW's as so absurd that it was just these guys doing something wrong. This is EXACTLY the way it plays out.

  Rogue elder

  isolated incident

  nothing in print suggests that so it was wrong

  they weren't following the direction of the slave

  etc...

  So while it is shocking and yet.....not shocking that it occured because of how we perceive the culture and the elders role within that culture....people there will no doubt bristle when they hear it, but they will brush it aside as not representative of the majority of judicial meetings. They are of course technically accurate.
  
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  Child Abuse - "I don't care. I haven't got any children".

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  earlier this week i bumped into a couple of jws who i recognised from the cult cart.

  a few months ago i had a long conversation with him one of them and found him to be quite friendly.

  he is new to the area in the years since i left.. this time he was very defensive and said he wasn't allowed to talk to me.

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  That is so uncomfortable to read, I'll bet it was even more uncomfortable to hear......and even MORE to actually SAY.
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  Ray Franz and You.

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if ray franz would have kept his mouth shut and not disfellowshipped, and remained part of the governing body how many of us ex-jw would still be trapped in the cult?.

  would we have come this far?.

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  I still haven't read them......but I know they have helped thousands either get out....or stay out.
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  Sam Herd’s comment on the 2001 Dateline expose

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  im going by memory, so not an exact quote...i believe this was around 2002, at the crownsville assembly hall (now sold from what i understand)..

  he said basically: some people watch an hour show and give up the faith that theyve had for decades..

  the impact of this show was like a canon being shot into a swimming pool.

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  Oh Barbara.....there you go killing by the thousands! Good grief....what a thing to say to a womans son. No shame indeed.
  
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  One year of being free

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  one year ago, this thursday, i went to work as usual.

  i got home, ate dinner, got myself dressed for the meeting, and helped my kids get ready like i usually did.. my son had a talk that evening, his second one.

  many of my family went to support him.

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  congrats!
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  If I'm ever found

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  2. humour

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  Haha.
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  Update rant almost a year out!

  by Ghiagirl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for those who know my story my hubby and i are almost a year out of the organization!

  my due date is right around the corner and still no word from my hubby's family.

  they are hardcore.

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  Congrats on your little one. Help him see that what he did wasn't just a decision...but the RIGHT decision. It will make all the difference in the world.
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  So much "growth"! JW Land double sided coin

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm finding it more and more funny how every wt article for the public or congregation, including jw broadcast talks about all this "growth" and how fast jehovha's organization is speeding up!

  yet everything behind closed doors, insider information, elder letters and sales paint a very different picture.

  i have news for you gb members!

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  Orphan crow,

  So I would LOVE to know more about how they are getting paid from goverments for literacy aids. Can you please help me out here or point me to a thread where you have your research.

  You are an awesome member of this group. Research at this level takes a particular mind. No wonder the crows liked you so much.
  
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  DECEPTIVE JW ELDERS - CASE#2

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  deceptive jw elders case#2 .

  appointing spiritually qualified men to take the lead and serve as elders and overseers has been a feature of watch tower congregational organization since about 1972. jws were told in talks at conventions, in literature, and finally in the two versions of the organization book that the biblical criteria is used when elders meet to consider some men for appointment as an elder.

  jws are also told that these qualified men are already appointed first by holy spirit, and then as the congregation is lead by that spirit to recognize them, the elders meeting is a confirmation of what god has done.

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  nice find.
  
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  Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

  by _Morpheus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

  rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

  q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

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  Having gone through much of this.....I am a bit dizzy. Funny, not entirely uninteresting, and generally I suppose I don't really get it.

  FM can you help me with one small factoid? Are you a JW or former JW. Just curious.

  thanks.